From: "Crystal R. Brazzel" <jcarey@texhoma.net>
Subject: Re: ZDUTTON — Thanks for pictures — Chickasha — Dutton characteristics
Date: 1998-07-28 04:04:04
Black Dutch - I have been told the "Black Dutch" were a tribe that moved over the border into Holland to avoid religious persecution during the "great inquisition." Their features weren't all that dark - unless you compare them to the fairer Dutch. Moved across the border from where? Don't know/can't remember. Looking at a map probably won't help much - as modern day borders may not be very representative of that time era (1600s?, earlier?). Wish I had a better memory. Anyone else have a definition? Janice ---------- > From: ECol91234@aol.com > To: [old-list] > Subject: Re: ZDUTTON -- Thanks for pictures -- Chickasha -- Dutton characteristics > Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 12:12 AM > > Dear Betty and Woody: > Small world. What years was your mother in Chickasha? > Our family was there from 1948 until the late 1960's, > early 70's. My Dad's station was ln South 81 near the > intersection of Grand Avenue. We lived on the corner of > Grand and 14th St. I have no sense of direction and don't > exactly know where east Chickasha is. Did you ever go to > the Shannon Springs Park off Grand Ave.? Did you know > that they have a huge Christmas light display there now > that attracts visitors and bus charters from all over? I > saw it last year and was amazed. > > Your mother's first name wasn't Eula by any chance? When I > was in high school 1949-52, there was a town bootlegger > whose first name was Eula.. . .the only one anyone had ever > heard of as having this name - - the source of some teasing > you can bet. Wouldn't it be a coincidence if this was the > "sort of " meeting of those two Eulas? > > Dad's station was Dutton Oil, an APCO distributorship the last > number of years. Uncle George's Dutton's Oil Co. (station) was > there at least as early as the 1940's until he died in the early > 1950's. What was your family's station and motor court named? > > So far as my Dutton family's physical characteristics, we have > many blue-eyed Duttons, including my dad, his father, my > Grandpa Sam and three of my siblings. I have the same green > eyes as you --referred to by myself as "hazel" and by my younger > "pesty" brothers as "cat eyes." There are some brown eyes in > the family and some very dark hair. My hair is fairly dark and > had very little grey until I turned 60. It still looks dark, but > has grey if you look very closely. The Dutton men that were > the brothers and father of my grandpa Sam were all described > by their descendants as quiet. The way the Walker Co. AL > relatives put it, "The Dutton men didn't talk. Any information > you got came from their wives." The Dutton men in my > father's generation and somewhat in later generations were > fairly quiet, but the Dutton women were (and many are, probably > including myself) hard to keep from talking. My Duttons are all > pretty religious, but almost all that I know about are Baptist, > mostly Southern Baptist. I have sort of strayed and joined > the Christian Church in later years. Some of the Walker Co. Duttons > must be Church of Christ as at least one is buried in that church's > cemetery. > > All this about Dutton characteristics reminds me of a question I want > to ask. Someone referred to Duttons being "Black Dutch". I would > like to know exactly what that refers to. My Dad used to say he was > part English, part Irish, and part Black Dutch. Grandpa Sam's wife, Ellen > was Irish of the red-haired and blue eyed variety, and from her we > have some red-haired and light haired members. I have had one > explanation of the Black Dutch reference. Like to see what you folks > know of that. > > There is one family mystery I am trying to solve, but live too far from > AL to get any answers yet. The only sister of my Grandpa Sam was > named S. Lucinda Dutton. Like most of my cousins, I was totally unaware > that there had been a sister as we always heard about the Dutton Brothers. > Seems Lucinda was found to be with child and unmarried and as I got > the story "The old man (William, her father) ran her off". My dad mentioned > her when I questioned him about birth order about 1990. He said, > "There was one sister, but Aunt Lucinda went off to Birmingham and > didn't have anything to do with the family, so I don't know where she > came in the birth order. " I heard the reason for her going off to > Birmingham after my dad died and I got in touch with the AL cousins. > Seems in the families of her brothers, the wives all pretty much gave > their husbands to understand that if one of their girls had this problem > there would be no thought of doing likewise. I'm sure my dad knew why > she "went off", but didn't want to say. If he had depended upon his Dad > to tell him he wouldn't have known, but he visited with the AL cousins > some when he was a young man and must have heard from the girls. > > Anyway, the only thing anyone else in the family knows of her is that > she did have a son. One of the cousins happened to meet him later in > life and had planned to see him and visit, but before he could do so, > the cousin with the good intentions became ill and died. The only > thing anyone knows of the son is that Glenn (the well-intended one) > said "he was nice." No one knows if she married the father of the > child, but it seemed to be common knowledge that the father was a > Hamilton. One of my cousins in Jasper's grandmother was a Hamilton > and she said there never was a marriage. > The only other thing that is known is that after she died, her > oldest surviving brother Elijah I. Dutton received a communication > from Elmwood Cemetery in Birmingham that her grave needed to be > moved because of some right of way and the cemetery wanted the family > to pay for the grave moving. Elijah consulted with his other Jasper area > brothers, none of whom were were will to chip in to pay anything. > Elijah didn't reckon as to how he wanted to pay for the whole thing, > so his granddaughter thinks no money was sent. I wrote Elmwood > asking them if there were a Lucinda, S.L. or S. Lucinda Dutton or > Hamilton buried there. They replied there was no one by the name > Lucinda Dutton buried there, so I guess that is the only name they were > willing to check. If anyone is researching Jefferson County records, > you should find David A. Dutton's family at some point. I don't know > exactly when he moved from Walker County. If you see a middle > name help me determine if it were Anders or Andrew. Seems to be > some family disagreement on that. Also keep an eye out for any > census or marriage records of Lucinda. If we had a married name, if > she did ever marry anyone, we could check other records. That is the > one big blank in the family of William D. Dutton and Mariah Keeton in > my records. Thanks, Eula